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campylobacter From: campylobacter Date: 24th September 2016 16:58 (UTC) (Link)
According to what viewers tweeted about it, reboot!McGuyver:

- copies a Mission Impossible heist in the intro
- uses gimmicky split screens, annoying mansplainy voiceovers, & freeform captions for the DIY scenes
- quotes the 1st few bars of the original music theme, then substitutes a new brass orchestral theme
- relies on the Women in Refrigerators trope 11 minutes in
- hired American Sniper as Mac's bodyguard
- pats itself on the back for including one Black woman as the stereotypical l337 h4x0r
- doesn't have RDA (I wonder what part they offered him that was so insulting that he refused unequivocally?)
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 24th September 2016 17:24 (UTC) (Link)
I don't think they offered RDA a specific part -- hell, they probably said "Just come do a cameo and everyone will know we're just great!" But he's become a regular on the con scene, and I would guess that he knew damned well that the reboot was nothing about the existing fans, except for the small vocal minority of 20 and 30something entitled white fanboys. They aren't the ones who've been putting their money where their hearts are for years, but just try getting Hollywood dudebros to realize that.

I actually give them positive points for the bit of the original theme music they did use -- it was one of the few really good nods to the original. I gather that the Hot New Thing right now is not to have any theme music or credits at all?

The split screens weren't too bad, and the captioned overlays could have been a brilliant technique for making the MacGyverisms work -- I can tell you from deep experience that it is an unholy bitch of a challenge to write strong, well-paced action sequences that use MacGyverisms. They're a pace killer. The voice-overs are also really tricky: unless done carefully, in support of the story, they're distracting and annoying. Guess what they were this time?

The two biggest issues I have, at this point in moderate retrospect, are that the storytelling was just plain lame -- all Moments!! and no actual plotline, basically. Even worse is the staggering ethical void. This title character has no problem with body count -- he's cool with blowing up the bad guys. Worse, he's fine with his dudebro buddy shooting and torturing, as long as Mac himself isn't actually doing the dirty work. WHUT?!?

Edited at 2016-09-24 17:34 (UTC)
campylobacter From: campylobacter Date: 24th September 2016 21:16 (UTC) (Link)
I'm convinced that old Hollwood dudebros wanna believe they're still "as hip as 20 something dudebros", so they Gary Stu themselves into a lot of the series they produce to impress women. "Hey babe, I don't wanna brag, but that character's love of aviation is actually based on me."

The original MacGyver theme is cheesy discoballs, but AMAZINGLY catchy. I can see why opting to not have theme music gives more time for storytelling, but it also gives up that all-important mimetic BRANDING.

I've seen split screens work, but the few minutes I watched of "McGuyver" looked more like screen fillers, as though it had been shot with a cell phone held portrait, not landscape, and they had to fill in the blank space.

> he's fine with his dudebro buddy shooting and torturing,
> as long as Mac himself isn't actually doing the dirty work

This is the definition of a supervillian + hired thugs! No wonder RDA washed his hands of the reboot.
swordznsorcery From: swordznsorcery Date: 25th September 2016 07:20 (UTC) (Link)
Even worse is the staggering ethical void. This title character has no problem with body count -- he's cool with blowing up the bad guys. Worse, he's fine with his dudebro buddy shooting and torturing, as long as Mac himself isn't actually doing the dirty work. WHUT?!?

That sounds horribly familiar. The total ethical void has been readily apparent in both the new "Hawaii 5-0" and the new "Ironside". It just about works in H50, as there are other main (ish) characters who aren't like that, but it killed "Ironside" right out of the gate. It's likely to look just as bad here too if there's nobody to off-set it. And, as we all know, it's Mac himself who should be doing that in the first place!

Yuck. :(

Come on, modern telly. Grow up.
a_phoenixdragon From: a_phoenixdragon Date: 24th September 2016 17:34 (UTC) (Link)
doesn't have RDA (I wonder what part they offered him that was so insulting that he refused unequivocally?)

From what I gather, he just read the first part of the script!
campylobacter From: campylobacter Date: 24th September 2016 18:09 (UTC) (Link)
Sounds like he would've rather had Mac hand off his legacy to a Daughter MacGyver :O
archersangel From: archersangel Date: 24th September 2016 22:57 (UTC) (Link)
my brother watched for 5 minutes "just to see if they had narration" & said it was horrible.
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 25th September 2016 15:06 (UTC) (Link)
From the mouths of babes?
swordznsorcery From: swordznsorcery Date: 25th September 2016 07:14 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, blimey. I was just coming in to ask lolmac where it went wrong, and... that's quite a list. (Although I wouldn't object to Bradley Cooper as the bodyguard! ;) ) I fully appreciate that the original series was neither perfect nor high art, but they got a lot more right than they did wrong.

I hear it got good ratings, but then a lot of people must have tuned in to episode one just to see what it's like.

*sigh* I don't actually want it to fail. Remakes don't have to be bad, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be like a good cover of a classic song: updated for a new audience. But this just sounds lame. :( Mac deserves better.
lothithil From: lothithil Date: 24th September 2016 17:11 (UTC) (Link)
A new LOLMac!At least something great has come out of this.

I still like Eads. I think there's a chance he might have watched at least one epiosde of TRT (the real thing)
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 24th September 2016 17:26 (UTC) (Link)
I think everyone involved has watched MacGyver -- hell, they all think they're big-time fans! And they are. But they don't understand why the show worked. Remember the loud fanboys on MOL who all thought they were MacGyver? Just picture them as the showrunners.

Edited at 2016-09-24 17:27 (UTC)
archersangel From: archersangel Date: 24th September 2016 23:00 (UTC) (Link)
A new LOLMac!At least something great has come out of this.

this.
a_phoenixdragon From: a_phoenixdragon Date: 24th September 2016 17:36 (UTC) (Link)
Only Epic!Thing to come out of this whole reboot mess. This. Right. Here.

Where did he steal that jacket from?? Dean Winchester??
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 24th September 2016 17:45 (UTC) (Link)
I give them a solid point for the jacket; it's definitely Mac's. The haircut is okay also. Give the kid 10 years and he might be ready for the role . . .
kaffyr From: kaffyr Date: 24th September 2016 18:16 (UTC) (Link)
Although I was never a big MacGyver watcher, even I remember that he didn't kill people, and he frequently kept even the other good guys from killing people. What I'm reading here doesn't sound right, not at all. That's a shame.
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 24th September 2016 18:27 (UTC) (Link)
Mac was absolutely anti-gun, and RDA willingly took heavy flack from the NRA about it. They did two or three episodes that were anti-gun PSA eps. This kid -- maybe the producers are afraid of the NRA? The #1 Buddy has the specific job of shooting (or torturing) people on Mac's behalf. The only concession the show made was that, at one point when Mac is handed a gun, he hits someone with it instead of shooting the guy.

Then he rigs a lethal explosion that kills that guy and at least one other . . . but hey, they're bad guys and therefore had it coming.
sharp2799 From: sharp2799 Date: 25th September 2016 02:00 (UTC) (Link)
I heart you for this.

It looked like he DECAPITATED someone!!! (Offscreen.)

WTF?! It was a bad remake of Burn Notice, NOT Macgyver.
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 25th September 2016 02:07 (UTC) (Link)
I missed the possible decapitation -- just as well! It was painful enough as it was!
pitry From: pitry Date: 25th September 2016 07:34 (UTC) (Link)
You know, here's the thing. As much as I was unhappy about this project, it looked terrible, etc... I was willing to hear that I was wrong and somehow they managed to capture and update the spirit of the original. All the reviews make it sound even WORSE than I expected it to be. That... takes some serious talent!
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 25th September 2016 15:15 (UTC) (Link)
I've been following it closely, and there were plenty of moments when I thought "Hey, that looks good -- maybe this will be ok." I tuned in with the best balance of hope and caution I could; but the ugly tropes and the body count soured it early, and kept going down.
lost_spook From: lost_spook Date: 25th September 2016 12:13 (UTC) (Link)
Oh dear.... /o\

You have my commiserations!
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 25th September 2016 15:18 (UTC) (Link)
Bless you, my friend!
liadtbunny From: liadtbunny Date: 25th September 2016 14:16 (UTC) (Link)
I'm sorry idiots with power messed up McGuyver. Hopefully it'll go away and be forgotten.
lolmac From: lolmac Date: 25th September 2016 15:17 (UTC) (Link)
Campy has been calling the reboot MacGyver "McGuyver", deliberately, because it's so bad. I don't expect the attempt to last, and I shan't mourn it.

Edited at 2016-09-25 15:18 (UTC)
jackwabbit From: jackwabbit Date: 28th September 2016 06:48 (UTC) (Link)
As I said elsewhere, I'll leave this one be. ;)
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